I registered for the PokerStars blog tourney again this year... I did pretty bad then. You see, over last summer, I read a few books and sites to "improve" my style of play. Worst. Decision. Ever. Got all up in my head and over analyzing things... what's worse is that I play in a friendly game every week and a lot of the "normal" card tricks simply don't work there. Position raise someone while you have the button? You'll get four people that will call the raise and one that will come over the top on you. And if you've got Aces on the button, better hold on, because that 74o the big blind has will meet a 568 on the flop.
Sometime this year, I rebooted myself and went back to my own style of play... since then I've done much better. A month ago I accidentally left my sunglasses on - mirrored front and prescription lenses - and did very well. Seems that all those years of teaching my eyes to show emotion worked against me at the poker table. Or I've just been on a run of timely suck outs - I don't think so, though, since I've gone as long as 30 hands where the best hole cards I've seen at T9s.
Anyway, the real story of this years Tourney is what would happen if I did well and won a prize, seeing as online poker playing is now a Class C Felony in WA state...
Class C Felony? Yep, you heard right. Actually, if you're in state, you've already heard a lot about it. If you're not, the law states that playing poker online earns you the same charge that you'd get if you molested a child. Yep, you heard me right a second time.
What gives? I dunno.
Well, I think I do know. In WA we've got a few reservations hosting casinos. We've got a lot of bars that offer state-based pull tabs. We've got lotto and scratch tickets and all that. Obviously gambling isn't the problem. Usually. Every year there's a law on the ballots that would allow bars and/or other casinos/card rooms/bowling alleys to have slot machines. Every year it fails to pass. Every year, the reservation-based casinos lobby to fight the proposed law and, from their point of view, it's money well spent. The only place to find slot machines in WA is on a reservation casino.
With poker, it's a little different. All of the reservation casinos have poker rooms, but so do a lot of other places scattered throughout the state. Given the above example of successful lobbying, wouldn't it stand to reason that there would be a lot of proponents for anti-online poker legislation?
You better believe it.
And that's where the new law comes from. I guess it wasn't enough that online poker was already on the books as illegal. They had to escalate the level of punishment that the crime carries. Online betting of other kinds? Totally legal. It's just online poker that carries this sentence. Additionally, a few other web sites that offer poker advice, rules, and the like, they have been targeted by the government as well. They've been threatened with prosecution if they don't remove the poker related content.
When pressured for an explanation, the WA government has stated that they are trying to protect their citizens.
What. A crock. Of shit.
I mean, honestly: are we expected to believe that? Really? The government is concerned about "poorly run" card rooms, meaning dirty online casinos that will allow "house" players to cheat or maybe casinos that steal your credit card information... so they criminalize the player? How in the hell does that make sense?! That's like preventing WA customers from buying stuff on eBay because you might get a spoofed email to get your information or you might bit on an auction that rips you off. Can't go after the casino because they're offshore? Why prosecute the player if you're really concerned about their safety?
Something doesn't click. The only thing in this mess that does click is that a whole lotta state senators were influenced and/or bought by lobbyists this go around... *shrug* to each their own, but I'd be tempted to vote out the majority of the incubents this November... honestly, it's that absurd.
Here's another thought... what were to happen if I drove up to Vancouver and set up a Windows Server box and left it with a hosting company? Sold accounts to ppl in WA and allowed them to use Terminal Services? The session to the online casino would be based in Canada, where online poker is legal... would that sidestep this silly law? Hell, you could even use Virtual Server, to do the same thing: in that scenario a full blown OS instance would be running, rather than just a terminal session... in case the TS session isn't "legal" enough...
Hm. Maybe I should get a business plan together.
Anyway, I got distracted by the gym and shopping and the Nintendo DS Lite so I totally missed the Blog Tournament... but that's also totally not the point.
Posted on: July 15, 2007 at 03:18 PM by EDWARD HOUE
I BELIEVE POKERSTARS IS THE BIGGEST JOKE OF THEM ALL!!!!!!! WAY TO MANY 4 OF A KINDS FULL HOUSES AND FLUSHES FALL ON THE BOARD. I TRY TALING TO THEM THEY FELL YOU FULL OF CRAP REASONS WHY! THE BIGGEST CRAP POKER SITE I HAVE EVER PLAYED ON. DONT TRY THIS SITE ITS A JOKE. THANK YOU ED
Posted on: July 15, 2007 at 03:20 PM by EDWARD HOUE
THEY ARE A CROCK OF SHIT COMPANY. WAY TO MANY 4 OF A KINDS AND FULL HOUSES AND FLUSHES FALL ON THIER BOARD. THEY ARE A JOKE AT PLAYING POKER
I'd like to put in my 2 cents cause thats all i have left in my pokerstars account. if you dont have a sence of humor, you shouldn't play,This site is a friggen joke, 3 years of losing and I still play,hence my screen name(anothersuker),maybe we've played, good for you!even the worst player in the world has better luck than I,miricles do happen all the time when i play, there seems to be a sequence to winning, I'm not quit there yet, but i'm close. im just anothersuker putting in my 2 cents
OK I would have to agree. Pokerstars is a joke! I won a $4.40 tournament with 180 players. Was a decent job but, for the last 5 days every pocket pair I get end up getting slammed.
AA beat by 93 suited all in pre flop...flop is a 33k. AA again was beat by A8 pre flop all-in. He got the flush.
KK was beat by 66.
I counted over 90 bad beats, river wins, in 2 days.
There is no way that pokerstars is not rigged.
I think they have computers palying on 2/3's of their tables and are raking the money in themselves.
Of course they have to occasionally let people win but, this way they can make even more money.
So who esle has seen this crap?
I am confident pokerstars has players on tables raking in the money.
I sat and watched a player start a cash game with $6. Played every hand and left the table with over $200. He did not lose a hand!! Playing shitty hands and winning. I watched this happen on many occasions.
Stay away from this site!!!!!!!!! You will lose!!!
Pokerstars is a fucking joke. I watch a player (David202006) lose one hand in a sit n go with 18 players. Sat out maybe 10 hands. All in with rags, 6, 2 flopped a fullhouse, 4 times.
Want to lose your cash. Better off mailinged your money to the crooks who own pokerstars.
POKERSTARS IS ANOTHER ONLINE SCAM
Posted on: August 10, 2008 at 12:07 PM by PokerStars
We have all been there man, I can totally sympathize with any player who suffers from what I call river-stars. It seems to be a regular occurance at pokerstars to get killed on the river, or a lot of times right after the flop. It has happened to me so many times at PokerStars that I have now started to refer to their poker room as riverstars. I know that I am not the only player who complains about this, and by the responses I see here, it affects everyone. On most online poker web sites, to lose with a dominating hand is a rarity, but on pokerstars, the rarity is for your superior hand to hold up.
can you trust online play?
i been play at pokerstars almost 6 months, i been doing ok with tour but get rigged at cash game. thats nomal, the things i want to say. very series question, can you trust online gamele, what we gona do when series problem happen!
i have roomate learn play poker from me, and we been tranfer each other often.he use e-check deposit, lately he deposit and he didn`t pay back(i guess tired for many bad beat), and he moved out, but i still play at pokerstars. two weeks ago,finnaly i won a small tournment $1800, and i am going to cash out $1000,what happen, guess. pokerstar frozn my account, i can`t log on any more, and pokerstars told me. beacuse i have close realationship whit my friend(my roomate), i have to responble his owe, i talk to them they not reopen my account untill my friend pay off his owe, i am so mad. somebody else owe pokerstars why i have reponsble for him, do you think that right?
any anyone have any idea for my problem? i been play at pokerstars almost 6 months, i been doing ok with tour but get rigged at cash game. thats nomal, the things i want to say. very series question, can you trust online gamele, what we gona do when series problem happen!
i have roomate learn play poker from me, and we been tranfer each other often.he use e-check deposit, lately he deposit and he didn`t pay back(i guess tired for many bad beat), and he moved out, but i still play at pokerstars. two weeks ago,finnaly i won a small tournment $1800, and i am going to cash out $1000,what happen, guess. pokerstar frozn my account, i can`t log on any more, and pokerstars told me. beacuse i have close realationship whit my friend(my roomate), i have to responble his owe, i talk to them they not reopen my account untill my friend pay off his owe, i am so mad. somebody else owe pokerstars why i have reponsble for him, do you think that right?
any anyone have any idea for my problem?
your telling me there is something going on with pokerstar 75% the time i'm either being killed or killing someone on the river .I do one know who is running pokerstar but i do belief by making wins more on the river cause more upsets and hogher betting to make pokerstar make more money ...NOW the question is what can we do about it?????
Posted on: November 20, 2008 at 09:38 AM by Austin168
same fucking shit happend on me as well, PS is really a fucking rigged room and I can almost ASSURE YOU THEY HAVE THEIR ONW PLAYER AT TEH TABLE TO GO AFTER YOUR MONEY AND WIPE OUT YOUR ACCOUNT, EVERY TIME I had pocket Aced, everyone folded pre-flop and if the one didn't fold got me beatten by the last fuckign action card or at the flop with flush or river already, this happend 95% of the time whenever I all in with pocket Ace or pocket K and LOST. fucking Pokerfuckignstars, it is so fucking rigged.
Posted on: November 20, 2008 at 09:45 AM by Austin168
STAY away from this fucking site. Boycut it
Posted on: November 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM by Austin8888
It's is so fuckign true that :
same fucking shit happend on me as well, PS is really a fucking rigged room and I can almost ASSURE YOU THEY HAVE THEIR ONW PLAYER AT TEH TABLE TO GO AFTER YOUR MONEY AND WIPE OUT YOUR ACCOUNT, EVERY TIME I had pocket Aced, everyone folded pre-flop and if the one didn't fold got me beatten by the last fuckign action card or at the flop with flush or river already, this happend 95% of the time whenever I all in with pocket Ace or pocket K and LOST. fucking Pokerfuckignstars, it is so fucking rigged
Posted on: November 30, 2008 at 11:02 AM by Austin168
Fucking PokerFuckingstars employs so many fucking Bots at every freaking table to wipe out your account, I have been dealt pcoket Aces and Ks 3 times in a role all lost to the fucking same "guy" with 5 T off suit, J2 off suit and 89 of diamond,, I am totally convinced that fuckign Pokerstars sets you up and use bots to take all your money, it is the most fucking scam of all, avoid POKERfuckingSTARS
hi Brandon...I have to agree with everything you said. I have been playing on pokerstars for alittle over a year and a half now. I have played on their website with the playmoney and I find it amazing enough that you can win a million or two million play money chips without a problem at all....However when you go play the real money tables....its not the same at all...I have shelled out over 40 thousand on that stupid website and only to get back 2 thousand...yes thats right....I have spent well over 40 grand to cash out a little over 2 thousand...so bottom line Im down 38 plus....Im not a donkey and Im not a bad loser by anymeans....But I cant tell you how many times I have sat at a table and been beaten to pocket aces...pocket kings....its just mind boggling....One night...I was playing 50-100 on that site.....(real money) I was dealt back to back pocket queens.......the next hand was pocket tens.......the very next hand after that pocket Kings.....then I got bullets right after that.....and to top it off....I got dealt pocket tens twice after that.....so there is 7 hands IN A ROW....decent pocket pairs....and I LOST on everyone of them!!! and it wasnt like I had 10's and high cards come on the flop...everytime and I mean EVERYTIME....the river is what killed me....How can anyone have luck that BAD is beyond me....and these idiots keep calling you right to the river.........I have seen everything and I do mean EVERYTHING on that site....I think its definately rigged....I have spent thousands of hours on that website and I just got rid of it on my computer.....I will never ever play there again...And for all those people that say....POKERSTARS is not rigged.....well they must be the ones that are in on it....I understand its common to lose or better yet go on a losing streak....but my god....this just does not add up.....something very fishy there.....like you said.....when you play the play money hands on their site.....you ALWAYS (well the majority of the time) win with decent hands.....but on the real money games......you get fucked on the river EVERYTIME!!! either that or someone catches a flush or heres a good one....a BIGGER full house on the river when you flopped a full house....I could tell you lots of things that I have seen and watched.....but I dont want to bore you to death. To all the people out there.....POKERSTARS>>>>WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY>>> DONT KID YOURSELF>....Thats what they do....If your a regualar on the site....and you read this....be honest with yourself...are you ahead? or are you down? if your honest.....you will be down...........I dont know anyone that has come ahead...the ones that say they come ahead.....THEY ARE LYING!!!!
Posted on: January 02, 2009 at 11:20 PM by dickwads
SPREAD THE WORD... POKERSTARS keeps tables and action moving, with computerized players at tables. Complete and total theft and robbery.
The only people making money are the fools that own pokerstars. Watch your bank account dwindle!! The worst starting hand wins 90% of the time. This site is completely rigged. Dont waste your money. US funds go overseas and you will never see your money again. This site should be shut down.
i was deep in a 20k guaranteed tourney on pokerstars when ik decided to limp with As3s. the big stack on table min raised so everyone else folded and i called. the flop came Ad Ah 9s. i check it, he bets, and i push. he called 80% of his chipstack with Q10 offsuit the turn came Ks and the river was Jh. which made the straight for him and eliminated me.i sent pokerstars an email with this information to get a correct percentage of the chance of me being beaten after the flop they replied with " Thank you for your email. I'm sorry to hear that you have been experiencing some bad beats onPokerStars recently. I have calculated the odds of the situation that youmention below: Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ts Ad Ahcards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EVAs 3s 974 98.38 16 1.62 0 0.00 0.984Qd Th 16 1.62 974 98.38 0 0.00 0.016 I use http://twodimes.net to calculate these odds and you may find it usefulas well. As you can see - you suffered the very definition of a bad beat andwould expect to win this hand more than 98 times in 100. However, the nature of tournaments is that if you are a strong player,getting your money all-in when ahead, you will often be eliminated with the best starting hand." so after flop i was 98.38% to win but i didnt. its a fucking joke that shit doesnt happen. the situation shouldnt of happened. any player would of folded that hand in that situation but he just happened to call and hit 2 of 6 outs running. if you use this site good luck you will need it
Today I search for comments about pokerstars room and its River; I play pokerstars room for 6 mounth and 80 % of the river assign the pot at different players; It' s incredible..So I ask you which room is not robbery??
Posted on: February 03, 2009 at 09:20 PM by dmwilliams
we hacked pokerstars, ultimatebet, absolute poker and fulltilt. we got more than one million names of so-called poker players. after a year of searching international databases and the usa, guess what? less then 1.8 percent of ALL names are real. rest are fake. they are bots playing for that website. we also checked tournament winners. less than 1.2% of tournament winners are real with the rest fake. as for badbeats, we found an average total in all, that less than .08 of the so-called winners are real. the rest are FAKE! prove it yourself. ask the players at a table who is real. beter yet, ask each player alone a question. see how many answers you get at a table or tournament. then see how many bots are playin there.
Posted on: February 04, 2009 at 03:20 PM by 83CAB83
I BET you guys are just a bunch of frustrated players who dont have the skills to play at the stakes you're actualy playing... YES my pocket Aces are cracked like 1 time out of 3 and its normal because I'm playing in the micro stakes and there's a lot of bad players who calls shit like pocket 8s all in preflop and then get lucky... but the reason it happens that much often is there's a lot... I mean... A LOT of fish out there calling with shit because they've lost their last game and are on tilt... For every good player on this site I believe there's at least 20 fish/donk. Make the calcul, there's hundreds of thousands players in there.
NO JOKE you are called with your raise on the button haha!!! THE TRICK IS DON'T GO ALL IN like if it was bingo... IT'S POKER!!!!!!! With pocket ace you are only 35% favorite against 2-3 players... It's only a game of situations guys, you know when you are strong by knowing your opponents, by putting them in bad situations, by being strong preflop but now putting your LIFE ALL IN with KK you'll get called by AK AQ AJ even A10 and there will be an A you know it... SO... Go see the flop with you KK, try to read the players, try to look for weakness in their playing, they won't go all the way to the river with their pocket 8 if there's a Q on the flop and you'll be good for a 3/4 pot sized bet with your KK... They will generaly fold there... if you get called, READ EM READ EM READ EM if the turn is an A you are probably in trouble... if its a K and you got called by KQ you'll make big $$$$$$
ALSO there's the player who plays for fun and for the thrill and who doesnt care to lose at all, this kind of player is only happy to get lucky once in a while, its a recreative activity for him.
ADD TO THIS the bad luck that happens randomly from time to time and you get an explosive mix of thing that will blow your Aces on the river.
Don't forget it's a 5 cards game not 2.
GOOD LUCK.
Check my stats on Sharkscope.com (83CAB83)
796 games played, av stakes 1$, av ROI 14%
total profit 89$
I started with a 5$ transfer from a friend of mine.
I'm finding my way up
SLOWLY BUT SURELY.
Other advice... I you are constantly losing at a game... move down to a lower stake to work out your play
(Barry Greenstein said it)
SEE YA ALL ON THE RIVER DONKS
Posted on: February 04, 2009 at 03:24 PM by 83CAB83
I BET you guys are just a bunch of frustrated players who dont have the skills to play at the stakes you're actualy playing... YES my pocket Aces are cracked like 1 time out of 3 and its normal because I'm playing in the micro stakes and there's a lot of bad players who calls shit like pocket 8s all in preflop and then get lucky... but the reason it happens that much often is there's a lot... I mean... A LOT of fish out there calling with shit because they've lost their last game and are on tilt... For every good player on this site I believe there's at least 20 fish/donk. Make the calcul, there's hundreds of thousands players in there.
NO JOKE you are called with your raise on the button haha!!! THE TRICK IS DON'T GO ALL IN like if it was bingo... IT'S POKER!!!!!!! With pocket ace you are only 35% favorite against 2-3 players... It's only a game of situations guys, you know when you are strong by knowing your opponents, by putting them in bad situations, by being strong preflop but now putting your LIFE ALL IN with KK you'll get called by AK AQ AJ even A10 and there will be an A you know it... SO... Go see the flop with you KK, try to read the players, try to look for weakness in their playing, they won't go all the way to the river with their pocket 8 if there's a Q on the flop and you'll be good for a 3/4 pot sized bet with your KK... They will generaly fold there... if you get called, READ EM READ EM READ EM if the turn is an A you are probably in trouble... if its a K and you got called by KQ you'll make big $$$$$$
ALSO there's the player who plays for fun and for the thrill and who doesnt care to lose at all, this kind of player is only happy to get lucky once in a while, its a recreative activity for him.
ADD TO THIS the bad luck that happens randomly from time to time and you get an explosive mix of thing that will blow your Aces on the river.
Don't forget it's a 5 cards game not 2.
GOOD LUCK.
Check my stats on Sharkscope.com (83CAB83)
796 games played, av stakes 1$, av ROI 14%
total profit 89$
I started with a 5$ transfer from a friend of mine.
I'm finding my way up
SLOWLY BUT SURELY.
Other advice... I you are constantly losing at a game... move down to a lower stake to work out your play
(Barry Greenstein said it)
SEE YA ALL ON THE RIVER DONKS
Posted on: February 04, 2009 at 03:53 PM by frediey01
pokerstars is a fix they have players on all the tables dm williams got it 100% right i have done all that and chat on all tables i am from uk when i see uk player i chat to them you can tell not from uk fix site 100%
Posted on: February 12, 2009 at 07:13 PM by whitewidow
Site is rigged, got crap flops few months also when i had good hands like u guys... (or bad beats), imailed them asking how this can, saying they rig the cards or there are bots/hackers there who now the cards what will come, they replyed nono cards are dealed random, about the bots igot some shitty reply saying nono we are secure and have securety for that but we can never be 100% safe, anyway whitin a week from that i had 1 night that i actuly won all the hands i should win... and won nicely then later that night a restart came of theyre server, after till now (3weeks after) ican't win nothing.... best chances i have is going with the shittyest hands igot i.e 2-8 unsueted, iam done there i try other site, used to play partypoker was a beginner then and lost alot but by a long shot not as much as pokerstars and also not the crappy way i loss on pokerstars
Posted on: February 20, 2009 at 05:57 PM by bad Player
Poker stars is a bad site I must admit. I not sure about rigged cause they have been "tested" for that. But when you go into a freeroll expect to run into people that have no idea to play the game let alone spell poker. My advice is to play the freerolls for fun only - don't expect to win if you play ABC poker. People have nothing to lose - and most of the time nothing to win.
This is not good I feel for Pokerstars as a site. Cause when I look where I am going to put my money to play for the real money. I play with play money first. And I have tried about 6 different sites and Pokerstars is on of the worse in poker variance. A hand that is 88% to win should win about 88% of the time. But not on pokerstars it wins about 40 % of the time. Mostly because you get about 6 callers on a 10 person table. But the site always rewards the bad callers.
My advice is to play on this site for fun only . But looking at the play with fun money I would never put real money on this site.
I would love all the personalities they have at this site to really play on their .net site. And say with a straight face that this is a good site to learn to play the game. This must be the worst site to learn to play the game. REALLY!!!
YOU WILL LOSE. ONLY WINNER IS PSTARS EXECUTIVES. SAVE YOUR ASS NOW
Posted on: March 06, 2009 at 10:20 AM by dirtykicker
i did a little study myself on pokerstars couse i loss a bunch of money one day so i started a new account went right back to the same table, same spot,same people, still on there and won big.After a day of being able to win i cashed out.it says allow 3 days to proccess the check.4 days later i went on there they never even prepaired it so i put it back in for a 25% bounus and it says i needed 250 fpp points just to get my 12.50 they owed my what a joke a sham cheating site that no one will ever come out on top and win money.Then i couldnt win then so i started another new one and did great for one day.There site is set up to make you feel like your good all the while taking you fees and what ever else they can and there program says thats enough piece of shit site and id love to see them shut down
Poker stars is a fraud.I had enough and decided to waste my rest 2$ and be done with online poker.
"Double or nothing" tourney,10 players.
Myself and one more verified humans.(we chatted).
I told him the site is fraud,2-3 minutes later,chatting was prohibited...
I raised pre-flop 600-1000$.I won more than 30 hands in a row.I say again : 30 HANDS IN A ROW.all bots folded all the time.
finally me and that guy won.Stop wasting time and money,these people are criminals.
PokerStars is a fucked up site. U will lose. US money goes over seas and will never be seen again. Site shouldbe shut down. DO NOT play! Save your ass. You are better off flushing your money down the toilet.
The only way I can play at Pokerstars (aka Riverstars - Pokerfarce - Jokerstars) is to be drunk. It is such a bunch of bullshit, unrealistic crap that it's too depressing to play there sober. When drunk, I can laugh at the ridiculous garbage that those crooks have the gall to call gambling. I hate that fucking site with a passion and feel that all the execs there should be put behind bars. FUCK YOU POKERSTARS!
POKERSTARS IS THE WORST FUCKED UP SITE. WORSE STARTING HAND WINS 95% OF ALL POTS. WATCH ANY TABLE. WATCH A SIT N GO AND WATCH ONE PERSON WIN ALMOST EVERY HAND. THIS IS THE POKERSTARS STAFFER. POKERSTARS IS A COMPLETE RIP OFF. SITE SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN. COMPLETE SCAM, FUCK THE EXECUTIVES AT POKERSTARS!! FUCK YOUR SCAM
Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 12:42 AM by online scam
This is a online scam. Pokerstars has many bots or people from pokerstars taking your cash. How many people have acutally made any money on this site. You do not notice anyone saying "hey I won".
Keep your hard earned money. The executives are laughing all the way to the bank. Or keep playing and losing your money. POKERSTARS IS A ONLINE SCAM
hey I win money on pokerstars 'pengu123' only play low limit sit n goes - but it does fck me off that my AK will almost always lose to Ace rag - way way way to much (meant to be 70-30 isn't it?) - Dominating hands are more likely to lose than win - I would be loaded otherwise LOL
Way to many divs that think they know what there doing on this site to - they make me laugh!
Pokerstars is definitely rigged. Actually, they all are. I've played at many. Pokerstars just seems to be one of the worst. And I say this, after turning my $100. into $726. So, I don't consider myself to be a shitty poker player. Thing is, you can't play "good" poker and win on this site...you have to be willing to call with bullshit every once in awhile. I agree with all of the previous comments about the crazy shit that happens too. And all of the truly unbelievable calls as if the other player knows exactly what is coming. Think about it. I used to play a 44 player tourney in a real casino and it started at 7pm and we were lucky if we were done by midnight...yet, online they can have massive tournies that are over in record time. They rig it so that they can make more money on entry fees. Get players in and out quick so they will move on to the next tourney. Anyone that says that online poker is not rigged... A) owns the place B)works for the place C)has an affiliate website.
Just a heads up. The way that I have won money:
I play the site now instead of the cards or the players. What I mean by that is...watch and learn when the setups are coming. Seriously, I have become truly psychic while playing on Jokerstars. You wouldn't believe some of the hands I fold depending on what position I'm in and how far into the tourney we are...I've become pretty good at smelling out the bullshit so to speak.
And as a side note...just curious if anyone else has experienced this phenomena...if I win too much all of the sudden I have to "update my software" and then all of the sudden I start losing with anything and everything no matter what.
Pokerstars is a complete scam. Start winning just a little and you will be asked to update software.
How is it this site can make so much money taking peoples money and still be open.
The truth is 97% of pokerstars players have deposited more money then they have made. Ever notice no one from Pokerstars is here defending there reputation. The pokerstars scam is they do not give a shit about taking your money.
The european owners of fucked up pokerstars will find a nice cold cell with there names on it
I was considering playing pokerstars for the 1st time. After reading this blog I decided to sign up and watch games before using my money.
Watching sit n go's it is amazing how often the worse starting hand wins. Better off folding a good hand. It will not hold up.
Watching a ton of game is was unreal to see 100% of the time one player went to a commanding chip lead the 1st 20 hands. You will see one player at every table that hits just about every hand. Needless to say winning hands with rags or bullshit hands. There is no way someone can play that stupid and win that many hands. SOMEONE IS BEHIND THIS SOFTWARE!!!
I had to remind myself that pokerstars is nothing more than software run my quite a few geeks. Watching the games, there is no fucking waY I would spend a penny on this site
Thank you to all of you helping me save my money and stay away from this ONLINE SCAM.
It is unbelievable how many people are losing money to the POKERSTARS SCAM
I Hope the scammers at Pokerstars get sent to jail! Save your money. Only the owners are making money. Recently heard 18 person sit n go was full of 14 players from pstars!! This is not the first time I have heard this
I was considering playing online poker for the 1st time and noticed this blog. Is there a reason why there is no one from pokerstars is defending there reputation of there so called company. I could be wrong but if there was not a scam one of the members of pokerstars would be posting comments.
Pokerstars even admits that they give preference to specific players. I found a person registered for a tourney 8 minutes before registration started and they kept telling me it could not happen and it had to be lag on my part. I told them that they are covering up hackers or glitches. Once I said this, I got the following email reply:
Your email was escalated to me for further review.
After looking into this further, we realized the player was pre-registered
about eight minutes before the registration period started.
The player in question was in fact manually registered by administration -
though this was an exception as we typically do not pre-register anyone in a
freeroll.
Feel free to contact us should the need arise.
Regards,
EddieC
PokerStars Support Team
Posted on: June 14, 2009 at 08:39 PM by touch money
i think it appears like a scam, but for different reasons. has anybody considered that if you have such a large ammount of people playing poorly or below average skill level, they will actually play bad hands most skilled players wouldnt play most of the time. therefore, if you have so many bad players playing bad hands, the odds will undoubtedly work in their favor, odds wise. of course, bad flops and turns and rivers fall, but if bad players are constantly playing garbage hands, they will luck out on the garbage, and the skilled player playing good or great hands lose to the garbage. im surprised this hasnt been mentioned here or at other forums. odds are not just based on the cards that fall on the table, but they are also in relation to the hands being played. odds are that garbage cards will fall as much as good cards. but if the majority of bad players are playing garbage, it would seem they have an edge over skilled players. this is why i stopped playing at poker stars. i really think the vast majority of players are not very skilled or learned, and in fact i have a theory that if i chose to play worse, i would probably have beem moree sucessful playing there. odds are all in realtion to who is deciding to play what hands. if the majority of hands are garbage, the garbage players have the distinct edge. i dare someone to refute this theory. i think its accurate. i dont blame pokerstars; they are so big and popular, there are so many bad players there, its hilarious, the bad players know this too; they are laughing all the way to the bank. if you are a skilled, learned patient player, avoid the site. the site is designed for below average players who play garbage. if you want to win at pokerstars, just play garbage like the majority of their players, you may well do very well. its almost like an alternate universe, kind of like an opposite land where everything that should be right ias worng, and vice versa. i found a better site, and im staying away from ps. its also kind of like myspace, as a good analogy; so much junk, after a while, you realize youre surrounded by a bunch of shitty "friends". im not being narcissistic or anything, im just saying in summary, that if the majority of any group is mediocre, you will end up with a mediocre product, mediocre odds, mediocre play, mediocre averages. thanks for letting me share. go find a real poker site and start winning. trust me on this... touch money
beyond a joke, mugs call raises with 8 3 then hits trips, worst hand always wins. Lost over 1 tourneys with the best hand fact. They let the tards win because it puts money in there shit cnut site....
Posted on: July 19, 2009 at 01:36 AM by ag garrelli
have a friend who uses echeck on fulltilt and pstars has multiple accounts and denies charges when they get to his account but in the meantime is able to transfer funds to other accounts especially on fulltilt after funds dont go through all the transferred funds are left alone they have actually closed his acounts and after several months he opened new ones using the same checking account and funds would go through again the reason im telling all u this is why if these sites were legit would they let this go on they wouldnt they dont care cause there scammin there money 2
Posted on: July 20, 2009 at 07:39 PM by Peter Howell
Pokerstars needs investigating for sure
Has long as your depositing small amounts
of cash they will allow yo to win so much back
then give you so many crazy bad beats you have to start depositing again
This is there bread and butter accounts
They leave the high rollers alone to get on with it because it makes there site look good with the big spenders on it
its the small depositers they hit hardest
Might let the BNP have a look at this problem now there in the European Parliment especialy has it is a german site !!!!!!!!!
Posted on: August 09, 2009 at 10:29 PM by Kenneth Dalsbø
Fuck the most UNSERIOUS jokersite on the web!
It`s a long story but DON`T play at theire site!
If you wannaq win, then you beter go to BINGOJOY.COM or any other site!
WHEN I STARTED AT POKERSTARS I COULDNT LOSE. WENT RIGHT UP TO A MILLON CHIPS.SINCE I HAVNT EVER PLAYED REAL MONEY,OR JOINED THE "PPA",I HAVE BEEN BEATEN DOWN BY EVERY TWO AND THREE OUTER ON THE RIVER YOU CAN IMAGINE. WAY OU OF THE STSTISTCAL NORM.I HAVE CONCLUDED THEY DRIVE YOU AWAY IF YOU DONT PLAY REAL MONEY ORYOU DONT SUPPORT THIER NEEDS.THIER DEALERS ARE PROGRAMMED AND THEY WILL ASSIGN NEGITIVE VARIABLES TO YOUR USER NAME.
Posted on: August 23, 2009 at 07:08 AM by Miss Poker
hi every1 i have read most comments about pokerstars, i feel tht the angriest people here are the ones who lack skills...i agree w some ..for the most part i have played pokerstars for 6 yrs and i have seen it all....instead of playin at unknown tables where ur not familiar w the plyrs ...get to know who the good playrs are and play them ....they will help u build ur skills give u a good poker game....most importantly...u will donk the donks and build ur play money account...i havent yet tried real money yet because i real alot of blogs so i undertsand the frustration of losin real money
Posted on: September 16, 2009 at 11:46 PM by mwp12345
u people are fucking retarded. pokerstars makes their $ from the RAKE! not from stealing your little piss ass bankrolls. figure out how much the rake is and multiply that by # of tables for each level of play(stakes) and you will see how they make millions upon millions BY RUNNING A CLEAN SITE! Why the fuck would they risk getting jammed up with a scandal when they can make so much $ running a clean site. The people on here bicthing are playing for peanuts,and I can tell are complete donkeys. Serious players and pokerstars staff are not on here defending the site because you people are a joke. The players at 10-20 limit and above are world class players and the competition below that, 1-2,2-4 is very tough also. Christ even if you turds run really good you might not make a profit in real money games because of superior competition. Stick to the lame ass play $ games if your gonna blame stars for your shortcomings.
Posted on: September 18, 2009 at 04:38 AM by Barney
This was less scary than I thought.
I managed to finish in 120th place, out of about 1,400. My largest stack was over 19,000 and so I was doing quite well at one point. I never had any good hands in what was the tightest game I�ve ever played in. ( have found but a lot of techniques at search engine http://rapid4me.com ) I was down to seeing the flop at a mere 14% of hands, which is about half the number I see in normal play points games.
I had a couple of QQ hands and one 55 that turned a set, but that was it. So I�m quite pleased with how I did. If only I had some better cards�
Posted on: October 20, 2009 at 11:19 PM by chris ryant
PoKeRsTaRs haha here it is,research. over a half of a year i wrote down every loss to a rivercard.after seeing there cards and obviously knowing what i had i had my college applied math professor run it through his statistical analysis program and he just started laughing and said "well i would advise that you dont give them your money by depositing any and scams like this will invariably be brought to light,in this case there are international laws being broken and people are going to go to jail,unfortunatly the ones truly behind this probably have unwitting fall guys in place and will get away." so from the mouth of a college math professor "good luck on pokerstars,your gonna need it"
Fuck Pokerstars...The final tables are so fucking rigged it sick. I have never in my life seen the unreal shit that happens on pokerstars tables....its fucking rediculas. I email pokerstars daily telling them they are fucking crooks and how fucking stupid they are for rigging there tables. Id love to find the mother fucker responsable for cheating me because id break his fucking legs and piss in his mouth. Lets band together to get pokerstars banned and put to crooks out of business....Hope they injoy hell
Posted on: December 26, 2009 at 11:39 PM by check DIS
- I have played at Poker Stars for 5 years now or just under and I absolutely agree that this site is rigged I also think that they have a certain strategy like a switch almost that good players can win and then lose for 2 weeks straight and then back to normal. I had my share of bad beats every day and still manage to have 18% ROI in tourneys and cash out weekly playing on tables. If you really want to make some money or just break even and make thousands of FPP’s its still possible on PokerStars just extremely boring because you cant enjoy the game now that you know that you have to play aggainst other players as well as the site itself trying to screw you because they dont like you cashing out. So the only hands i play is A-something suited to get the nut flush or a pocket pair to get trips or full house and that really is boring but at least when i put the money in i know that not only i put it in with best odds but that i got the nuts and all that money is coming back to me and then some.
During the time period when I was discovering this strategy to beat pokerstars I was testing it at .01/.02c tables and what do you know the statics on these tables seem to be almost or even 100% correct but once you move up to 10/.25 cent tables watch out LOL its true try it out!!!!!!!!!!!! At least you will make 50 bucks a week and some points even if you know u are capable of making hundreds , but its still beats losing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope I helped and also can’t wait till we get another huge pokersite launched that will be fair!!!!!!!!! the market is there it will happen !!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Pokerstars is really a joke , I even had e-mail contact with pokerstars about the continious bad beats. We all get bad beats , but what I think is strange is that some ppl go all in with NO hand at all , like 56 not suited , get called by KK , and on the flop comes 567 , the turn 5 and the river 6 ,, YEAH SURE !!!!!!!!!!! This must be a fixed thing !
So I asked them , and surprise surprise , the came with the standard answer , about random cards.
Well talk with 100 ppl who are playing Pokerstars , they all will say it has nothing to do with Random.
i also asked them if they had bots playing for pokerstars.
I got a lot of answers about the random thing , but not a word about the bots !!!
I also agree with a writer above , that playing pokerstars makes you a worse player .
Forget all statistics and % calculations.
Well ,my final conclusion is :
I keep playing online pokergames , but only for time entertainment !!!!!!! not to win any money.
i played 75800 hands (100% true, all real money not including freerolls and playmoney, they sent me my statistics) at pokersarse in 6mnths(which is a lot for some, not a lot for a pro or someone who cant get their fat 320 pound arse off the couch or is allergic to UV), and have not cashed out yet.
At micro stakes i win consistently, making the money very often, profitably even(lol.. profit, wasting time really, yu could get more "profit" from begging).
In a freeroll i can beat 64,485,987,352 people to win a shitty weekly ticket that starts at 6am on a monday morning(i live in southern hemisphere). Consistently.
i move up levels and evrything gets busted hard, and i mean ridiculously hard.
HU sng's at micro i win 65-70% over 100+ games, then move up and, yep you guessed it, get smashed by b.s...
Pokersarse Staffbots tell me variance is measured over 10k hands, so what about the othe 60k? Then they tell me that luck is also needed? so is it a gambling site or not? Nuff said.
SUSPICIOUS either way. Thanks for reading and.. ahem.. Goodluck?
I just closed my account,it is now at 0$ and have banned myself for the longest exclusion time jokerstars will allow, 180 days.I have also deleted there software from my comp,i will not put another penny in with this site!!
The final straw for me was a $6 18 player tourney, and i had made it to the final table,actually the final 6 players.I was dealt j.j. on the button i raised to triple the blinds $1000, b.b. called and s.b. called as well as one other.
Flop came down 5,3,j everyone checked to me and i made it 2500 to go,b.b and s.b called,other player folded.turn was a 9, it was again checked to me and i pushed with my trips $5000,b,b and s.b both called.when we flipped i was in the lead with my trips and they BOTH HAD A,2 off!!!!The river was of course a 4 and they both pulled a miracle str8 to beat my trips and knock me out.
They both hit a fucking 4 outer,and chased it right to the end,risking there stacks in the process,i am done with this crooked site!
$10 grand over the last 5 yrs is enough for me.
Posted on: February 07, 2010 at 07:15 AM by NeverHasNuts
Most all the people who complain about donks on pokerstars are donks themselves. If you adjust your play you can make a lot of money. When playing against donks you must play tighter...you must be able to lay AA or KK down after the flop and some cases before the flop. You always have to watch the players to get a feel if they are newbies. In addition, it's best to stay away from ring games .10/.25 on down. They are lotto stakes. However, If your bankroll is to low to play .25/.50 stakes, then do as I did..play $5 9ppl SnGs. Much safer and the donks can be busted a lot easier.
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