I registered for the PokerStars blog tourney again this year… I did pretty bad then. You see, over last summer, I read a few books and sites to “improve” my style of play. Worst. Decision. Ever. Got all up in my head and over analyzing things… what’s worse is that I play in a friendly game every week and a lot of the “normal” card tricks simply don’t work there. Position raise someone while you have the button? You’ll get four people that will call the raise and one that will come over the top on you. And if you’ve got Aces on the button, better hold on, because that 74o the big blind has will meet a 568 on the flop.
Sometime this year, I rebooted myself and went back to my own style of play… since then I’ve done much better. A month ago I accidentally left my sunglasses on – mirrored front and prescription lenses – and did very well. Seems that all those years of teaching my eyes to show emotion worked against me at the poker table. Or I’ve just been on a run of timely suck outs – I don’t think so, though, since I’ve gone as long as 30 hands where the best hole cards I’ve seen at T9s.
Anyway, the real story of this years Tourney is what would happen if I did well and won a prize, seeing as online poker playing is now a Class C Felony in WA state…
Class C Felony? Yep, you heard right. Actually, if you’re in state, you’ve already heard a lot about it. If you’re not, the law states that playing poker online earns you the same charge that you’d get if you molested a child. Yep, you heard me right a second time.
What gives? I dunno.
Well, I think I do know. In WA we’ve got a few reservations hosting casinos. We’ve got a lot of bars that offer state-based pull tabs. We’ve got lotto and scratch tickets and all that. Obviously gambling isn’t the problem. Usually. Every year there’s a law on the ballots that would allow bars and/or other casinos/card rooms/bowling alleys to have slot machines. Every year it fails to pass. Every year, the reservation-based casinos lobby to fight the proposed law and, from their point of view, it’s money well spent. The only place to find slot machines in WA is on a reservation casino.
With poker, it’s a little different. All of the reservation casinos have poker rooms, but so do a lot of other places scattered throughout the state. Given the above example of successful lobbying, wouldn’t it stand to reason that there would be a lot of proponents for anti-online poker legislation?
You better believe it.
And that’s where the new law comes from. I guess it wasn’t enough that online poker was already on the books as illegal. They had to escalate the level of punishment that the crime carries. Online betting of other kinds? Totally legal. It’s just online poker that carries this sentence. Additionally, a few other web sites that offer poker advice, rules, and the like, they have been targeted by the government as well. They’ve been threatened with prosecution if they don’t remove the poker related content.
When pressured for an explanation, the WA government has stated that they are trying to protect their citizens.
What. A crock. Of shit.
I mean, honestly: are we expected to believe that? Really? The government is concerned about “poorly run” card rooms, meaning dirty online casinos that will allow “house” players to cheat or maybe casinos that steal your credit card information… so they criminalize the player? How in the hell does that make sense?! That’s like preventing WA customers from buying stuff on eBay because you might get a spoofed email to get your information or you might bit on an auction that rips you off. Can’t go after the casino because they’re offshore? Why prosecute the player if you’re really concerned about their safety?
Something doesn’t click. The only thing in this mess that does click is that a whole lotta state senators were influenced and/or bought by lobbyists this go around… *shrug* to each their own, but I’d be tempted to vote out the majority of the incubents this November… honestly, it’s that absurd.
Here’s another thought… what were to happen if I drove up to Vancouver and set up a Windows Server box and left it with a hosting company? Sold accounts to ppl in WA and allowed them to use Terminal Services? The session to the online casino would be based in Canada, where online poker is legal… would that sidestep this silly law? Hell, you could even use Virtual Server, to do the same thing: in that scenario a full blown OS instance would be running, rather than just a terminal session… in case the TS session isn’t “legal” enough…
Hm. Maybe I should get a business plan together.
Anyway, I got distracted by the gym and shopping and the Nintendo DS Lite so I totally missed the Blog Tournament… but that’s also totally not the point.
Not anymore.
I BELIEVE POKERSTARS IS THE BIGGEST JOKE OF THEM ALL!!!!!!! WAY TO MANY 4 OF A KINDS FULL HOUSES AND FLUSHES FALL ON THE BOARD. I TRY TALING TO THEM THEY FELL YOU FULL OF CRAP REASONS WHY! THE BIGGEST CRAP POKER SITE I HAVE EVER PLAYED ON. DONT TRY THIS SITE ITS A JOKE. THANK YOU ED
THEY ARE A CROCK OF SHIT COMPANY. WAY TO MANY 4 OF A KINDS AND FULL HOUSES AND FLUSHES FALL ON THIER BOARD. THEY ARE A JOKE AT PLAYING POKER
Wow. Might be the best non-relevent blog post comment to date.
I’d like to put in my 2 cents cause thats all i have left in my pokerstars account. if you dont have a sence of humor, you shouldn’t play,This site is a friggen joke, 3 years of losing and I still play,hence my screen name(anothersuker),maybe we’ve played, good for you!even the worst player in the world has better luck than I,miricles do happen all the time when i play, there seems to be a sequence to winning, I’m not quit there yet, but i’m close. im just anothersuker putting in my 2 cents
OK I would have to agree. Pokerstars is a joke! I won a $4.40 tournament with 180 players. Was a decent job but, for the last 5 days every pocket pair I get end up getting slammed.
AA beat by 93 suited all in pre flop…flop is a 33k. AA again was beat by A8 pre flop all-in. He got the flush.
KK was beat by 66.
I counted over 90 bad beats, river wins, in 2 days.
There is no way that pokerstars is not rigged.
I think they have computers palying on 2/3’s of their tables and are raking the money in themselves.
Of course they have to occasionally let people win but, this way they can make even more money.
So who esle has seen this crap?
Pokerstars is rigged…..
Bad beat after bad beat. Site is a complete joke.
I am confident pokerstars has players on tables raking in the money.
I sat and watched a player start a cash game with $6. Played every hand and left the table with over $200. He did not lose a hand!! Playing shitty hands and winning. I watched this happen on many occasions.
Stay away from this site!!!!!!!!! You will lose!!!
We have all been there man, I can totally sympathize with any player who suffers from what I call river-stars. It seems to be a regular occurance at pokerstars to get killed on the river, or a lot of times right after the flop. It has happened to me so many times at PokerStars that I have now started to refer to their poker room as riverstars. I know that I am not the only player who complains about this, and by the responses I see here, it affects everyone. On most online poker web sites, to lose with a dominating hand is a rarity, but on pokerstars, the rarity is for your superior hand to hold up.
can you trust online play?
i been play at pokerstars almost 6 months, i been doing ok with tour but get rigged at cash game. thats nomal, the things i want to say. very series question, can you trust online gamele, what we gona do when series problem happen!
i have roomate learn play poker from me, and we been tranfer each other often.he use e-check deposit, lately he deposit and he didn`t pay back(i guess tired for many bad beat), and he moved out, but i still play at pokerstars. two weeks ago,finnaly i won a small tournment $1800, and i am going to cash out $1000,what happen, guess. pokerstar frozn my account, i can`t log on any more, and pokerstars told me. beacuse i have close realationship whit my friend(my roomate), i have to responble his owe, i talk to them they not reopen my account untill my friend pay off his owe, i am so mad. somebody else owe pokerstars why i have reponsble for him, do you think that right?
any anyone have any idea for my problem? i been play at pokerstars almost 6 months, i been doing ok with tour but get rigged at cash game. thats nomal, the things i want to say. very series question, can you trust online gamele, what we gona do when series problem happen!
i have roomate learn play poker from me, and we been tranfer each other often.he use e-check deposit, lately he deposit and he didn`t pay back(i guess tired for many bad beat), and he moved out, but i still play at pokerstars. two weeks ago,finnaly i won a small tournment $1800, and i am going to cash out $1000,what happen, guess. pokerstar frozn my account, i can`t log on any more, and pokerstars told me. beacuse i have close realationship whit my friend(my roomate), i have to responble his owe, i talk to them they not reopen my account untill my friend pay off his owe, i am so mad. somebody else owe pokerstars why i have reponsble for him, do you think that right?
any anyone have any idea for my problem?
your telling me there is something going on with pokerstar 75% the time i’m either being killed or killing someone on the river .I do one know who is running pokerstar but i do belief by making wins more on the river cause more upsets and hogher betting to make pokerstar make more money …NOW the question is what can we do about it?????
SPREAD THE WORD… POKERSTARS keeps tables and action moving, with computerized players at tables. Complete and total theft and robbery.
The only people making money are the fools that own pokerstars. Watch your bank account dwindle!! The worst starting hand wins 90% of the time. This site is completely rigged. Dont waste your money. US funds go overseas and you will never see your money again. This site should be shut down.
Today I search for comments about pokerstars room and its River; I play pokerstars room for 6 mounth and 80 % of the river assign the pot at different players; It’ s incredible..So I ask you which room is not robbery??
we hacked pokerstars, ultimatebet, absolute poker and fulltilt. we got more than one million names of so-called poker players. after a year of searching international databases and the usa, guess what? less then 1.8 percent of ALL names are real. rest are fake. they are bots playing for that website. we also checked tournament winners. less than 1.2% of tournament winners are real with the rest fake. as for badbeats, we found an average total in all, that less than .08 of the so-called winners are real. the rest are FAKE! prove it yourself. ask the players at a table who is real. beter yet, ask each player alone a question. see how many answers you get at a table or tournament. then see how many bots are playin there.
I BET you guys are just a bunch of frustrated players who dont have the skills to play at the stakes you’re actualy playing… YES my pocket Aces are cracked like 1 time out of 3 and its normal because I’m playing in the micro stakes and there’s a lot of bad players who calls shit like pocket 8s all in preflop and then get lucky… but the reason it happens that much often is there’s a lot… I mean… A LOT of fish out there calling with shit because they’ve lost their last game and are on tilt… For every good player on this site I believe there’s at least 20 fish/donk. Make the calcul, there’s hundreds of thousands players in there.
NO JOKE you are called with your raise on the button haha!!! THE TRICK IS DON’T GO ALL IN like if it was bingo… IT’S POKER!!!!!!! With pocket ace you are only 35% favorite against 2-3 players… It’s only a game of situations guys, you know when you are strong by knowing your opponents, by putting them in bad situations, by being strong preflop but now putting your LIFE ALL IN with KK you’ll get called by AK AQ AJ even A10 and there will be an A you know it… SO… Go see the flop with you KK, try to read the players, try to look for weakness in their playing, they won’t go all the way to the river with their pocket 8 if there’s a Q on the flop and you’ll be good for a 3/4 pot sized bet with your KK… They will generaly fold there… if you get called, READ EM READ EM READ EM if the turn is an A you are probably in trouble… if its a K and you got called by KQ you’ll make big $$$$$$
ALSO there’s the player who plays for fun and for the thrill and who doesnt care to lose at all, this kind of player is only happy to get lucky once in a while, its a recreative activity for him.
ADD TO THIS the bad luck that happens randomly from time to time and you get an explosive mix of thing that will blow your Aces on the river.
Don’t forget it’s a 5 cards game not 2.
GOOD LUCK.
Check my stats on Sharkscope.com (83CAB83)
796 games played, av stakes 1$, av ROI 14%
total profit 89$
I started with a 5$ transfer from a friend of mine.
I’m finding my way up
SLOWLY BUT SURELY.
Other advice… I you are constantly losing at a game… move down to a lower stake to work out your play
(Barry Greenstein said it)
SEE YA ALL ON THE RIVER DONKS
I BET you guys are just a bunch of frustrated players who dont have the skills to play at the stakes you’re actualy playing… YES my pocket Aces are cracked like 1 time out of 3 and its normal because I’m playing in the micro stakes and there’s a lot of bad players who calls shit like pocket 8s all in preflop and then get lucky… but the reason it happens that much often is there’s a lot… I mean… A LOT of fish out there calling with shit because they’ve lost their last game and are on tilt… For every good player on this site I believe there’s at least 20 fish/donk. Make the calcul, there’s hundreds of thousands players in there.
NO JOKE you are called with your raise on the button haha!!! THE TRICK IS DON’T GO ALL IN like if it was bingo… IT’S POKER!!!!!!! With pocket ace you are only 35% favorite against 2-3 players… It’s only a game of situations guys, you know when you are strong by knowing your opponents, by putting them in bad situations, by being strong preflop but now putting your LIFE ALL IN with KK you’ll get called by AK AQ AJ even A10 and there will be an A you know it… SO… Go see the flop with you KK, try to read the players, try to look for weakness in their playing, they won’t go all the way to the river with their pocket 8 if there’s a Q on the flop and you’ll be good for a 3/4 pot sized bet with your KK… They will generaly fold there… if you get called, READ EM READ EM READ EM if the turn is an A you are probably in trouble… if its a K and you got called by KQ you’ll make big $$$$$$
ALSO there’s the player who plays for fun and for the thrill and who doesnt care to lose at all, this kind of player is only happy to get lucky once in a while, its a recreative activity for him.
ADD TO THIS the bad luck that happens randomly from time to time and you get an explosive mix of thing that will blow your Aces on the river.
Don’t forget it’s a 5 cards game not 2.
GOOD LUCK.
Check my stats on Sharkscope.com (83CAB83)
796 games played, av stakes 1$, av ROI 14%
total profit 89$
I started with a 5$ transfer from a friend of mine.
I’m finding my way up
SLOWLY BUT SURELY.
Other advice… I you are constantly losing at a game… move down to a lower stake to work out your play
(Barry Greenstein said it)
SEE YA ALL ON THE RIVER DONKS
pokerstars is a fix they have players on all the tables dm williams got it 100% right i have done all that and chat on all tables i am from uk when i see uk player i chat to them you can tell not from uk fix site 100%
Site is rigged, got crap flops few months also when i had good hands like u guys… (or bad beats), imailed them asking how this can, saying they rig the cards or there are bots/hackers there who now the cards what will come, they replyed nono cards are dealed random, about the bots igot some shitty reply saying nono we are secure and have securety for that but we can never be 100% safe, anyway whitin a week from that i had 1 night that i actuly won all the hands i should win… and won nicely then later that night a restart came of theyre server, after till now (3weeks after) ican’t win nothing…. best chances i have is going with the shittyest hands igot i.e 2-8 unsueted, iam done there i try other site, used to play partypoker was a beginner then and lost alot but by a long shot not as much as pokerstars and also not the crappy way i loss on pokerstars
Poker stars is a bad site I must admit. I not sure about rigged cause they have been “tested” for that. But when you go into a freeroll expect to run into people that have no idea to play the game let alone spell poker. My advice is to play the freerolls for fun only – don’t expect to win if you play ABC poker. People have nothing to lose – and most of the time nothing to win.
This is not good I feel for Pokerstars as a site. Cause when I look where I am going to put my money to play for the real money. I play with play money first. And I have tried about 6 different sites and Pokerstars is on of the worse in poker variance. A hand that is 88% to win should win about 88% of the time. But not on pokerstars it wins about 40 % of the time. Mostly because you get about 6 callers on a 10 person table. But the site always rewards the bad callers.
My advice is to play on this site for fun only . But looking at the play with fun money I would never put real money on this site.
I would love all the personalities they have at this site to really play on their .net site. And say with a straight face that this is a good site to learn to play the game. This must be the worst site to learn to play the game. REALLY!!!
It’s very easy..
YOU WILL LOSE. ONLY WINNER IS PSTARS EXECUTIVES. SAVE YOUR ASS NOW
i did a little study myself on pokerstars couse i loss a bunch of money one day so i started a new account went right back to the same table, same spot,same people, still on there and won big.After a day of being able to win i cashed out.it says allow 3 days to proccess the check.4 days later i went on there they never even prepaired it so i put it back in for a 25% bounus and it says i needed 250 fpp points just to get my 12.50 they owed my what a joke a sham cheating site that no one will ever come out on top and win money.Then i couldnt win then so i started another new one and did great for one day.There site is set up to make you feel like your good all the while taking you fees and what ever else they can and there program says thats enough piece of shit site and id love to see them shut down
Poker stars is a fraud.I had enough and decided to waste my rest 2$ and be done with online poker.
“Double or nothing” tourney,10 players.
Myself and one more verified humans.(we chatted).
I told him the site is fraud,2-3 minutes later,chatting was prohibited…
I raised pre-flop 600-1000$.I won more than 30 hands in a row.I say again : 30 HANDS IN A ROW.all bots folded all the time.
finally me and that guy won.Stop wasting time and money,these people are criminals.
This is a online scam. Pokerstars has many bots or people from pokerstars taking your cash. How many people have acutally made any money on this site. You do not notice anyone saying “hey I won”.
Keep your hard earned money. The executives are laughing all the way to the bank. Or keep playing and losing your money. POKERSTARS IS A ONLINE SCAM
hey I win money on pokerstars ‘pengu123’ only play low limit sit n goes – but it does fck me off that my AK will almost always lose to Ace rag – way way way to much (meant to be 70-30 isn’t it?) – Dominating hands are more likely to lose than win – I would be loaded otherwise LOL
Way to many divs that think they know what there doing on this site to – they make me laugh!
Pokerstars is definitely rigged. Actually, they all are. I’ve played at many. Pokerstars just seems to be one of the worst. And I say this, after turning my $100. into $726. So, I don’t consider myself to be a shitty poker player. Thing is, you can’t play “good” poker and win on this site…you have to be willing to call with bullshit every once in awhile. I agree with all of the previous comments about the crazy shit that happens too. And all of the truly unbelievable calls as if the other player knows exactly what is coming. Think about it. I used to play a 44 player tourney in a real casino and it started at 7pm and we were lucky if we were done by midnight…yet, online they can have massive tournies that are over in record time. They rig it so that they can make more money on entry fees. Get players in and out quick so they will move on to the next tourney. Anyone that says that online poker is not rigged… A) owns the place B)works for the place C)has an affiliate website.
Just a heads up. The way that I have won money:
I play the site now instead of the cards or the players. What I mean by that is…watch and learn when the setups are coming. Seriously, I have become truly psychic while playing on Jokerstars. You wouldn’t believe some of the hands I fold depending on what position I’m in and how far into the tourney we are…I’ve become pretty good at smelling out the bullshit so to speak.
And as a side note…just curious if anyone else has experienced this phenomena…if I win too much all of the sudden I have to “update my software” and then all of the sudden I start losing with anything and everything no matter what.
BUNCH OF THEIVES. dONT PLAY ACES eveR KEEP YOUR MONEY.
A jOKE SITE
I was considering playing online poker for the 1st time and noticed this blog. Is there a reason why there is no one from pokerstars is defending there reputation of there so called company. I could be wrong but if there was not a scam one of the members of pokerstars would be posting comments.
Sounds like another great online SCAM.
Pokerstars even admits that they give preference to specific players. I found a person registered for a tourney 8 minutes before registration started and they kept telling me it could not happen and it had to be lag on my part. I told them that they are covering up hackers or glitches. Once I said this, I got the following email reply:
Your email was escalated to me for further review.
After looking into this further, we realized the player was pre-registered
about eight minutes before the registration period started.
The player in question was in fact manually registered by administration –
though this was an exception as we typically do not pre-register anyone in a
freeroll.
Feel free to contact us should the need arise.
Regards,
EddieC
PokerStars Support Team
i think it appears like a scam, but for different reasons. has anybody considered that if you have such a large ammount of people playing poorly or below average skill level, they will actually play bad hands most skilled players wouldnt play most of the time. therefore, if you have so many bad players playing bad hands, the odds will undoubtedly work in their favor, odds wise. of course, bad flops and turns and rivers fall, but if bad players are constantly playing garbage hands, they will luck out on the garbage, and the skilled player playing good or great hands lose to the garbage. im surprised this hasnt been mentioned here or at other forums. odds are not just based on the cards that fall on the table, but they are also in relation to the hands being played. odds are that garbage cards will fall as much as good cards. but if the majority of bad players are playing garbage, it would seem they have an edge over skilled players. this is why i stopped playing at poker stars. i really think the vast majority of players are not very skilled or learned, and in fact i have a theory that if i chose to play worse, i would probably have beem moree sucessful playing there. odds are all in realtion to who is deciding to play what hands. if the majority of hands are garbage, the garbage players have the distinct edge. i dare someone to refute this theory. i think its accurate. i dont blame pokerstars; they are so big and popular, there are so many bad players there, its hilarious, the bad players know this too; they are laughing all the way to the bank. if you are a skilled, learned patient player, avoid the site. the site is designed for below average players who play garbage. if you want to win at pokerstars, just play garbage like the majority of their players, you may well do very well. its almost like an alternate universe, kind of like an opposite land where everything that should be right ias worng, and vice versa. i found a better site, and im staying away from ps. its also kind of like myspace, as a good analogy; so much junk, after a while, you realize youre surrounded by a bunch of shitty “friends”. im not being narcissistic or anything, im just saying in summary, that if the majority of any group is mediocre, you will end up with a mediocre product, mediocre odds, mediocre play, mediocre averages. thanks for letting me share. go find a real poker site and start winning. trust me on this… touch money
beyond a joke, mugs call raises with 8 3 then hits trips, worst hand always wins. Lost over 1 tourneys with the best hand fact. They let the tards win because it puts money in there shit cnut site….
have a friend who uses echeck on fulltilt and pstars has multiple accounts and denies charges when they get to his account but in the meantime is able to transfer funds to other accounts especially on fulltilt after funds dont go through all the transferred funds are left alone they have actually closed his acounts and after several months he opened new ones using the same checking account and funds would go through again the reason im telling all u this is why if these sites were legit would they let this go on they wouldnt they dont care cause there scammin there money 2
Pokerstars needs investigating for sure
Has long as your depositing small amounts
of cash they will allow yo to win so much back
then give you so many crazy bad beats you have to start depositing again
This is there bread and butter accounts
They leave the high rollers alone to get on with it because it makes there site look good with the big spenders on it
its the small depositers they hit hardest
Might let the BNP have a look at this problem now there in the European Parliment especialy has it is a german site !!!!!!!!!
WHEN I STARTED AT POKERSTARS I COULDNT LOSE. WENT RIGHT UP TO A MILLON CHIPS.SINCE I HAVNT EVER PLAYED REAL MONEY,OR JOINED THE “PPA”,I HAVE BEEN BEATEN DOWN BY EVERY TWO AND THREE OUTER ON THE RIVER YOU CAN IMAGINE. WAY OU OF THE STSTISTCAL NORM.I HAVE CONCLUDED THEY DRIVE YOU AWAY IF YOU DONT PLAY REAL MONEY ORYOU DONT SUPPORT THIER NEEDS.THIER DEALERS ARE PROGRAMMED AND THEY WILL ASSIGN NEGITIVE VARIABLES TO YOUR USER NAME.
hi every1 i have read most comments about pokerstars, i feel tht the angriest people here are the ones who lack skills…i agree w some ..for the most part i have played pokerstars for 6 yrs and i have seen it all….instead of playin at unknown tables where ur not familiar w the plyrs …get to know who the good playrs are and play them ….they will help u build ur skills give u a good poker game….most importantly…u will donk the donks and build ur play money account…i havent yet tried real money yet because i real alot of blogs so i undertsand the frustration of losin real money
This was less scary than I thought.
I managed to finish in 120th place, out of about 1,400. My largest stack was over 19,000 and so I was doing quite well at one point. I never had any good hands in what was the tightest game I’ve ever played in. ( have found but a lot of techniques at search engine http://rapid4me.com ) I was down to seeing the flop at a mere 14% of hands, which is about half the number I see in normal play points games.
I had a couple of QQ hands and one 55 that turned a set, but that was it. So I’m quite pleased with how I did. If only I had some better cards
PoKeRsTaRs haha here it is,research. over a half of a year i wrote down every loss to a rivercard.after seeing there cards and obviously knowing what i had i had my college applied math professor run it through his statistical analysis program and he just started laughing and said “well i would advise that you dont give them your money by depositing any and scams like this will invariably be brought to light,in this case there are international laws being broken and people are going to go to jail,unfortunatly the ones truly behind this probably have unwitting fall guys in place and will get away.” so from the mouth of a college math professor “good luck on pokerstars,your gonna need it”
– I have played at Poker Stars for 5 years now or just under and I absolutely agree that this site is rigged I also think that they have a certain strategy like a switch almost that good players can win and then lose for 2 weeks straight and then back to normal. I had my share of bad beats every day and still manage to have 18% ROI in tourneys and cash out weekly playing on tables. If you really want to make some money or just break even and make thousands of FPP�s its still possible on PokerStars just extremely boring because you cant enjoy the game now that you know that you have to play aggainst other players as well as the site itself trying to screw you because they dont like you cashing out. So the only hands i play is A-something suited to get the nut flush or a pocket pair to get trips or full house and that really is boring but at least when i put the money in i know that not only i put it in with best odds but that i got the nuts and all that money is coming back to me and then some.
During the time period when I was discovering this strategy to beat pokerstars I was testing it at .01/.02c tables and what do you know the statics on these tables seem to be almost or even 100% correct but once you move up to 10/.25 cent tables watch out LOL its true try it out!!!!!!!!!!!! At least you will make 50 bucks a week and some points even if you know u are capable of making hundreds , but its still beats losing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope I helped and also can�t wait till we get another huge pokersite launched that will be fair!!!!!!!!! the market is there it will happen !!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Pokerstars is really a joke , I even had e-mail contact with pokerstars about the continious bad beats. We all get bad beats , but what I think is strange is that some ppl go all in with NO hand at all , like 56 not suited , get called by KK , and on the flop comes 567 , the turn 5 and the river 6 ,, YEAH SURE !!!!!!!!!!! This must be a fixed thing !
So I asked them , and surprise surprise , the came with the standard answer , about random cards.
Well talk with 100 ppl who are playing Pokerstars , they all will say it has nothing to do with Random.
i also asked them if they had bots playing for pokerstars.
I got a lot of answers about the random thing , but not a word about the bots !!!
I also agree with a writer above , that playing pokerstars makes you a worse player .
Forget all statistics and % calculations.
Well ,my final conclusion is :
I keep playing online pokergames , but only for time entertainment !!!!!!! not to win any money.
i played 75800 hands (100% true, all real money not including freerolls and playmoney, they sent me my statistics) at pokersarse in 6mnths(which is a lot for some, not a lot for a pro or someone who cant get their fat 320 pound arse off the couch or is allergic to UV), and have not cashed out yet.
At micro stakes i win consistently, making the money very often, profitably even(lol.. profit, wasting time really, yu could get more “profit” from begging).
In a freeroll i can beat 64,485,987,352 people to win a shitty weekly ticket that starts at 6am on a monday morning(i live in southern hemisphere). Consistently.
i move up levels and evrything gets busted hard, and i mean ridiculously hard.
HU sng’s at micro i win 65-70% over 100+ games, then move up and, yep you guessed it, get smashed by b.s…
Pokersarse Staffbots tell me variance is measured over 10k hands, so what about the othe 60k? Then they tell me that luck is also needed? so is it a gambling site or not? Nuff said.
SUSPICIOUS either way. Thanks for reading and.. ahem.. Goodluck?
Most all the people who complain about donks on pokerstars are donks themselves. If you adjust your play you can make a lot of money. When playing against donks you must play tighter…you must be able to lay AA or KK down after the flop and some cases before the flop. You always have to watch the players to get a feel if they are newbies. In addition, it’s best to stay away from ring games .10/.25 on down. They are lotto stakes. However, If your bankroll is to low to play .25/.50 stakes, then do as I did..play $5 9ppl SnGs. Much safer and the donks can be busted a lot easier.
I agree it’s rigged. I’ve been getting busted by crappy hands a lot. A lot more than you would expect if it was on the level playing live. Sure you can make the argument that this will happen because of the nature of random chance. But it seems to happen a lot more than it should. I just flopped a flush holding the nuts and a guy with JJ ended up with a full house on the turn. Sure this happens but this is just one example of the crap that happens on a regular basis.
pokerstars.com is the biggest rip off gambling site on the web!!!!!it is not random or chance,it is programed for you to lose.alot of hype and throwing around of big names to lure people in just to lose their money!!they have no security-children can play!!i know i used to be a part of their so called management team!!!!!!!!!your better off playing the florida lottery-the odds are better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOTS run the site.the same person has loged in using 4 different bank accounts(i guess small accounts) with different user names and played the same 6 person nl holdem table(SO HE COULD GET THE ODDS) – and still LOST all his MONEY to the BOTS!!!! IT IS A SCAM!!! YOU WILL LOSE!!!!
I agree with about the 3rd post in. I have played live in Vegas, Niagara, Atlantic City. I have never seen such bullcrap flops EVER!!!! There is something wrong with it for sure. Just such a hard pull every time. Not enjoyable. I finally player real money thinking it would be more realistic. They can take my $50 deposit and shove it. Because of my experience I will never play poker online again! I have never seen such crap, easily 40 flops in a row that didnt do me anything. I’m not a shit player either, fold, fold, fold, fold finally hit a decent pocket and it NEVER pays!!!!
I agree, I had to vent and posted before I read alot of these posts. I totally agree, I feel sometimes that there are staff sitting on tables and its rigged. They start with barely no money and just sweep it up with crazy flops and hail mary hands. Just feels like you can never get ahead! I’ve sat with $100 on 1/2 tables in vegas many times and have never done so badly. First time depositing real money on a poker site and I will never do it again once my $30 is done. Thanks Poker Stars, you’ve ruined what could have beeb=n a fun online experience. NEVER AGAIN!
This site gave me $5 for free and I turned it into nearly $300, but lately the .02/.05 micro game that i would win at consistently … well i just starting losing and losing and losing
it was very suspicious to me, i would never have even considered a rig, since they can make so much money without taking that risk, but my bad streak is nothing that i have ever experienced in home games or online … i suppose their could be collusion, but even that can backfire on cheaters
anyway, i had to resort to playing the $2.20 Satellite for the Sunday 1/4 Mil. and then Unregistering to get the $11 – T$ … i’ve been winning the $11 approx. 1 out of 3.5 times playing, so i’m scraping back up that way … then i’ll hit the 180 Sit ‘n Go to get cash back … hey still a great way to learn, but i would be very hesistant to play anything more than small stakes after my experiences on pstars
Jokerstars offers the worst bad beats ever
i mean epic bad beats, the worst hands usually
win 95% of the time , i mean its a sad day when
your A,A gets crushed by Q,5 all in preflop by a maniac
who has been winning every hand. The best players get
crushed, while donkeys call off all their chips preflop
with 3,6 offsuit, K,2 etc. And river miracle boats
or flushes. And when you try to play the same
shitty hands, the site then favors the better player
. The site wont let you win any significant pots.
Ive lost major tournaments with my K,K raise getting
reraised by 8,10 and losing to a rivered straight.
I tried playing with odds calculators attached to the
site and almost always lost huge hands even
when i was 87% favorite or better, by donks catching
their 1 outer on the river.
Andy
I have read all the info on this site, I just wanted to say I think Pokerstars is simply a electric game that gives you money every now and then just to make you think you could win a big pot one day, JUST LIKE A CASINO !!!! Tell you what if anyone still thinks Pokerstars is fair, just go to a play money sit and go, then us real money and go to a sit and go 9 person table. When its fake money you get great cards your AA will 99% of the time win the pot…. Now when you use REAL MONEY you cant win SHIT… Someone always makes a better hand….. I have played at only one BIG real money sit and go ($110 entry) table. My first hand I got AA and someone bet ALL IN so I called knowing I had the nuts at the time, and all they had was 38, the flop was 333-8-A! I was out of the table in 2 minutes! CAN YOU SAY BULLSHIT!!!!! Who would play 83 all in on a $110 buy in unless they new something??????????
i had a login problem with jokerstars ? have you tried to reach these pepole if you carn,t login to your account to get answers .all the pages that pokerstars have for deposit bonus this &that just look how many for help&support & when you do get some one jokerstars allways say,s your patience is appreciated but can not giver at time frame for your queery after 2 day,s they sent a temp password that did not work becausethey forgot to remove block 1st 2 more day,s latter sent temp password 2 im still waitting for veriforcation 3 day,s now i sent a email to support team answer your orignal email has been forwarded no time frame can be given today,s answer fom JACOB .A secrity what is the exact nature of your queery situation has been corrected(NO IT BLOODY HAS NOT) IF THAT,S NOT TAKING THE PISS over a week to correct a small problem & still not resolved, god helpme if i ever won jokerstars like to take but not give that,s why they don,t t
bother with customercare, ps i have noticed that?chip leaders get all the right cards even going all in wiyh 6 2 off suit & win. i must have been blessed with this login problem , your,s edtheagle.
cool material and I dig the site but what about the ugly problem of collusion in online poker?
Really good post!
I was looking at the tournaments and saw one for $0.30 which I thought was nice and cheap for me, however it turned out to be for $3.30!!!
It definitely said $0.30 when I entered.
Has happened before when I entered one for $0.10 and it turned out to be, $1.10.
This comes after a long run of bad luck in OMAHA such as a 25-1 shot coming in on a massive all in.
All followed by an extended run of bad luck where I can’t even make a pair in ohaha, you can forget making trips, for me it does not happened unless someone else makes quads, I have came down from $170 to just $29, can’t win a hand.
LOL
so random……
7 draws in a row all droped 2 pair….
3 of them AA floped 2nd pair turned and rivered…
ive played in tourney’s and i dont think ive ever seen that happen yet its something of a norm on pokerstars…..
I never played real money because ive played enough with play chips to tell…..
I mean i got up to 3 mil in free chips but I really dont feel like it was by playing poker…..
Just got a few really lucky lotto hands….and thats really all you should do at pokerstars because the shit is definately rigged for ACTION…
I like the one posters statement about staff playing……..Its a copmputer program im sure they have BoTs they can turn on to sit at tables and take the money and the rake……
online poker in general is like playing the slot machines……….FAKE
Being a math major with an unlimited math IQ (college tested) I agree with all of the above posts except the few that said you were crazy. Pokerstars is a big ripoff and should be shut down. It is just that simple. Nobody is that stupid as to play the cards that some of these so called people play. Good for the people that have quiet PS as you were making them rich.
pokerstars sucks i am so happy that the us government shut them down and hope that all of the assholes that run that rip off are hanging from shower curtains
I have played live, and online. POKERSTARS and every other site seems legit until an invisible timer sets off where you can never win and will never cash again. I’ve won some on POKERSTARS, and iPoker, but never able to grow my bankroll, and usually end up losing it all with time. Collusion, bots, cheating software, and many various other techniques have made it impossible to get an edge on any players. The Random generators seem tweakable due to mouse movements and timing. If you wait too long to Raise or RR you will lose…If you Raise to fast you will lose…it’s all about timing, which in reality should not change the outcome at all.
I absolutely have no problem with pokerstars in the let say first half of tournament,, my AA , KK hold like they suppose to,,, my problems start in the bubble or at the final table.. suddenly you loose with AA vs A 10. . my only explanation is– it doesnt change percentage .. if your aces suppose to win 82% ,, loosing two all ins (important ones) will NOT affect percantiges for too much,,it might go to 81%,, and for those who use poker tracker will appear all normal but in reality you lost when you had to cash inn big